bill o'reilly offering up his advice this morning on fox and friends. take a listen. >> what romney should be doing right now is watching ronald reagan take apart jimmy carter. now, with this caveat; president obama much quicker than jimmy carter, much. however, the way reagan did it was authoritative but kind of folksy. you've got to take the edge off a little bit -- >> no. >> but you've got to be a little bold and fresh out there. but you've got to do it with more of a twinkle in your eye. if he shows malice, he'll lose. jenna: we'll see what our next guest thinks about that. it's one of governor romney's former debate coaches, brett o'donnell. he's the president of donnell and associates. in addition to coaching governor romney, he's worked with john mccain and president george w. bush. nice to have you on the program. >> good to be with you. jenna: for some of our viewers, how does one become an expert debate coach? did you start out on the debate team in high school? how did you become a coach? >> well, you know, i was in the right place at the rig